Flipping heck man, are you in my head?
Nicely articulated..I'm wit ya dude.
i came across this lecture at 3am not being able to sleep by dan baker.
it details his transition from christian fundamentalist to atheist and the various shades in-between.
he realises that every denomination of christian can open the bible and prove to you that they have the right interpretation and everyone else is wrong.
Flipping heck man, are you in my head?
Nicely articulated..I'm wit ya dude.
the watchtower says:.
9 while most major books of religion say very little, if anything, about god, the bible acquaints us with jehovah god and his activities.
it helps us to see the many facets of his personality.
Oh oh.
One of the key things that kept me believing all these years was the Daniel prophecies....
I'm going to have to read this carefully..
it's about a year since i started visiting this website.
it all started with the july 15 wt last year and all the changes.
lazy me had not read it online so when one bro said to me at the hall, 'have you read all the new stuff in that issue' i didn't know what he was talking about.
Careful mate, trusted they may be, but when the cult programming kicks back in they'll be forced to take action of some kind to "help" you. With the best of interest rooms of course, but misguidedly...
I foundout that two of my conversations had been reported by two different brothers a while back. I don't blame the brothers, I would've done the same a couple years ago, they are trying to help, but it can land you in hot water...
it's about a year since i started visiting this website.
it all started with the july 15 wt last year and all the changes.
lazy me had not read it online so when one bro said to me at the hall, 'have you read all the new stuff in that issue' i didn't know what he was talking about.
Hiya dog dude, glad it's settled down for you too, we're on similar paths you and I, although I resigned a while back. We all have different coping strategies, myself, I can laugh (inwardly) at the logical fallacies, the circular reasonings, the outright bull that's spouted, while viewing my meeting attendance as supporting the wife in her choice of activity. Don't know if it'll carry on forever or not but I can cope for now. HHope you find your own way mate..
after years of hard work and study, former bethel boy snare & racket is now officially a medical doctor.. his story is an inspiration that there can be life after the watchtower.
he has given me permission to post his graduation picture.. .
Good man!
(ps, if you're reading this, cog Diss were talking about getting a medical person on the show to answer questions.... Get yourself on there, you can give em the jw side and the medical side of blood transfusions...)
we have just published a new article at ajwrb entitled:.
watchtower approved blood transfusions.
http://ajwrb.org/watchtower-approved-blood-transfusions.
Marky mark
i attended my last meeting in january 2014, having realised that i'd been lied to for 20+ years (i'm now 43 y/o).
rumours spread of my 'apostasy'.. in may, cobe contacted me inviting me to a private meeting with elders at the kh.
(no mention of the meeting being a jc).
Good work sir, good for you!
as a former jehovah's witness, i now sit back and marvel how well i had been suckered into this religion.
and to think that their own worst critic was their own publications.. in 1968 some 43 years had lapsed since their last firm prediction on when armageddon would occur.
they had predicted 1925 would see an end to the worlds suffering and a new world for the true believers, i.e.
Nice surmising sir!
In such brief overview it makes it seem even more obvious they needed a ray Franz shaped patsy..
before i start, i'm not a wt apologist and i am certainly not trying to minimise sex abuse.
i was looking at the amount of sex abuse cases in light of witness population.
just say wt ended up on paying out on 30,000 individual abuse cases.
I hate to weigh in on subjects that I don't know enough about, BUT, I can only offer my own experience..
I know of a case where something like this came to light, as per instructions the elders rang the branch, who promptly told them to immediately ring the police. When the guy came out of prison we as a body were given strict guidelines to keep an eye on him, never letting him go to to he KH toilet alone incase a kid went in after, never assigning him to work with youngsters on the ministry, all kinds of safeguards...
I understand that not everyone had the same experience, but that's mine. I'd be interested to know how many times the branch do tell the elders to go straight to the police, and if this is normal, compared to cover ups.
I DO think that going overboard and accusing the society of being paedophile harbourers doesn't necessarily help bring awareness to the problems, it'll just be ignored as rhetoric, as opposed to pointing out very specific policy/legal/individual cases....
hello everyone on jwn, allow me to introduce some of the qualifed agenices who legally use our services provided by the food bank.
as a fading jw i am trying to find ways to fill up the time i wasted in field circus and try to make this world a better place.
the food bank is used by our judicial system, we get lots of low-level criminals doing community service, every other day i hear "what did you do?
Marking the HECK out of this thread... I'vee had some conversations with the elders about this, usually quoting one or two of the scriptures above, only to be told that they are referring to OUR brothers, PARTICULARLY to those related to us IN THE FAITH etcetera... But even if that were true (which the rest of the scriptures above show not to be the case) it goes against Jesus words when he talked about not doing good ONLY to those loving us (or something), and besides that it's just CLEARLY the right thing to do, see a need, try to fill it.
Tight fisted is right....